Tuesday, April 8, 2008

The Bra Matrix


The Bra Matrix is the world of false bra measurements and uncomfortable bras.


It is the world where busts are divided into A, B, C and D, and underbust measurements into 70, 75, 80 and 85.


It is the world in which you live feeling that you have a strange bust, and that adjusting your bra umpteen times a day is normal.

   I always thought that I had the right bra. I carefully read those little tables on websites, measured myself, and bought 75 c bras.
   I thought that it was normal to adjust the bra a couple of times every day. I believed that my breasts were spaced too far apart, and that was the reason that the underwire never went all around the breast, but poked into it. I thought that comfortable bras don't exist anyway, well maybe only if I had the money to buy a really expensive one. And I was sad that pretty thin bra straps were bad because they didn't offer enough support.

   Until the day I discovered I was stuck in the Bra Matrix.
I read and read, measured myself, and got a 65D bra. I was delighted ! For the first time I had a bra that was comfortable and made me look good. The band was tight, but contrary to expectations it was very comfortable. The underwire framed my entire breasts, so I realised my breasts weren´t too wide apart, it was the bras that had been wrong. >Pics of my breasts, before and after<

  So, what´y the Bra Matrix ? I discovered it on this blog. Since you probably don't read Polish, I'll explain.

The biggest misconception is that there exists a fixed size for each cup. For example, that the only difference between 70A, 75A, and 80A is the size of the band that is attached to it.
This is not true. The cup size changes with the band size.

Take a look at these photos:
DD cups are big in the NZ band size 18 (EU 90) and quite small in NZ 8 (EU 65)
Both the cups here are DD... but as you can see they are not the same !


The D cup in 65 and the B cup in 70 are very similar in size ! However, the 65D underwire is slightly broader than the 70B.


More photos and explanations *here*

The other big myth is that to get your under-bust measurement, you have to measure yourself under the bust, add 5 cm, and go up to the nearest band size.

This is absolutely stupid for the following reasons:
* The measuring tape is not stretchable. The bra band is, and it stretches up to 20 cm. Try it at home !
* It is the band and not the shoulder straps that should support the bust. To give good support, the band must be snug, not loose.
* Would you wear panties that are bigger than your hip measurement ?


A test if you are wearing the correct band size:

Do a jumping jack: Jump, lift your arms over your head, and clap. If your band moved, it's too loose.


Another test: if you can pull the bra band more than 3-4 cm away from you body, tie it tighter. Then bend forward and gather all your armpit and back fat into the cups (that was actually escaped breast tissue). Stand up, and you´ll see your cups spilling over.

Another way to check is to take a look at your back view in the mirror.
The correct band size should look like this: 
  


The band size is too big if it looks like this:



Reading for beginners: 

How to measure yourself and get your CORRECT size !!! Then read: How to buy your first right-sized bra. For later reading: complete list of my Bra Matrix Articles. You can also mail me with any bra question you have, but don´t forget to include your correct measurements !


♥ For examples of bra before and after shots, take a look >here<.

70B to 60E !!!
note the "quadruple breast" effect in the wrong size (70B)


note: I am using European measurements.
 Use this chart to convert it to the sizes of your country

 


Sharing is caring!

45 comments:

  1. Hi, really liked your info on "Bra Fitting" - thank you, thank you.
    I've been squeezed into the wrong thing time and time again. Even
    after going to a super upscale store and being "professionally"
    fitted... Now to find the bra...

    ReplyDelete
  2. The so-called professional fitters often don't know a lot about bra
    fitting. I've even spotted lots of badly fitted models on bra ads !
    I'm posting a guide to buying bras online, be sure not to miss it !

    ReplyDelete
  3. hi


    Where can you buy a bra size 60. I have only managed to find size 65

    ReplyDelete
  4. Hello, you don't say where your are from. I have posted some links to online stores here: http://weblog.xanga.com/eternalvoyageur/652169948/buying-bras-online-a-short-guide.html
    If you live outside Europe, take a look at the brands in those stores, and then google to find online stores with those brands and bra models in your area.

    Then there's British Ebay, you might want to search for 28 (that's the same as 60). I got lovely bras there for quite cheap, but you have to hunt around a bit, and discuss shipping costs with the sellers (there is cheap surface shipping, then air mail, then registered shipping, then trackes... depending on how cheap / how secure you want the postage to be). And often you can't return the bra if it's incompatible.

    Hope that helped ! If you have any more wuestions, just let me know.

    ReplyDelete
  5. I'm so glad I found this page! After wearing bras in high school that left red marks on my body and hurt, I had deemed them too uncomfortable and stopped wearing them. Ten years later I considered going in for a bra fitting and starting to wear one again, because I am sick of looking like a child (I look FLAT in most shirts without one). I wussed out of the fitting and started trying some on instead, and was so confused and upset when none of the B cups that fit my chest had big enough bands (they lifted up between my breasts) and going to bigger band sizes meant there was too much space for my breasts. I have a SMALL frame, I weigh 90 pounds, so why couldn't I find a tiny bra to fit me? Now I think my problem is that I actually need a C cup. I will go out again tomorrow and this time, not be too shy to try a larger cup.

    I'm still reading, but I'm just so happy to know that I might not be as impossible to fit as I expected. :) So thanks for sharing.

    ReplyDelete
  6. [Earlier today, I commented on your old Xanga blog to thank you for enlightening me on correct bra sizes. After I hit the 'Comment' button, I realised that you had moved your blog. To save you the trouble of moving my comment, I have copied and pasted it here. :-)]

    Hi there, after stumbling across your blog in a search for how to get rid of armpit fat, I remeasured and discovered instead of the 34A I always thought I was, I am actually a 32D! I am in my mid thirties, and after years of pushing my poor breasts into bras that don't fit, they are quite misshapen. It seems that they are permanently quads!

    I am wearing the correct sizes for about 2 months now, and they have improved a bit. I guess all that mistreatment over the years just doesn't get undone very quickly. What I think happened was that I was an A cup (I was underweight), but after putting on weight the fat just grew around my boobs instead of being incorporated into them. But thanks to you, my bras fit better now, I feel more comfortable and my breasts look really great! Like Boob Girl I am really happy to be a D cup too

    ReplyDelete
  7. Hey, thanks for making the effort and copying the comment here !
    I´m glad I could help ! Do remeasure again after a few weeks, it´s possible that after the fat gets back into the breast you´ll need a DD cup :-)

    ReplyDelete
  8. Thanks for your posts! I finally learned how to properly measure and went from a 34B to a 30FF. Here's my before and after:
    http://img844.imageshack.us/i/beforeaftera.jpg/

    ReplyDelete
  9. I've given up measuring and go by fit; there's a lot of shipping and returning, but I went from a 36C to a 65/70 F-GG (depending on the bra and manufacturer). It all started because I was sick of the wires sticking forward between my breasts. It angers me that so few women are actually a B but so few bras go above a D - it makes 85% of the population feel like their breasts are "wrong" instead of the bra manufacturers! Bravissimo.com has some great fitting tutorials and pictures, and gives phone support.

    ReplyDelete
  10. Lauren
    I love Bravissimo, and I think the ladies in UK are lucky. I didn't know they give phone support --- I think that's great, especially for people who aren't that crazy about the internet.
    I totally get your anger, it was from similar feelings that my personal "bra crusade" began. I believe that us customers can gradually make manufacturers change things.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Hi :D This is very helpful info. I finally have bras that fit right!
    The only sad thing, that if I want to tell other women (cause we were talking about it anyways and why not help them?) they often resist. I tell them cupsize is relative to bandsize and they just don't want to believe me, they are like: You can't be wearing a C-cup (70C), that's too big! Once I even show this site sometimes with the pictures and they (my mum and grandma) are like: "That's not possible! Ok, maybe it's true, but not this extreme.." I've actually stopped telling women. It's really strange how this idea about cupsize is so incorporated in society :S I didn't really have an any goal posting this, I just wanted to rant, sorry :P Love you site though, keep up the good work :D

    ReplyDelete
  12. Hey Charlotte
    I know! Women are often hard to convince! You could try sending them links with before and afters (on this blog, or the videos from Maheda, some bra store also have nice videos). In the case of family member measuring them and then gifting them a bra often works. Or a demo on a more cooperating family member might also work.

    ReplyDelete
  13. First of all, I would really like to say this is an amazing site. I had a discussion with my mother a while back, because she thought it sounded so strange for me to be a 34F (75G in Swedish measurements) - which means there is no "regular" store in my hometown who sells bras my size. She thought, as well as many others, that this is way too big.
    Lastly, in case it is not listed on your blog, a great site which ships (for free!) to almost every country in the world, is asos.com.

    ReplyDelete
  14. Hi, I appreciate your info on playtex 18 hour bras fitting. I've been squeezed into the wrong thing time and time again. I would like to thank you for sharing your thoughts and time into the stuff you post!!

    ReplyDelete
  15. I am so glad I stumbled onto your blog! Even though I discovered what you call "the bra matrix" a couple years ago, you have so much detail and info that I still did not know (such as all the info in other posts about padded/push-up bras, links to a few e-tailers I didn't know about). I am trying to do a bra-intervention on my sister right now, I am sure she needs a smaller band/bigger cup, but she is very resistant to the idea. So I sent her the link to your blog, hoping all the information and before/after pics, pics of different band size bras with "same cup" sizes next to each other, etc., will convince her.
    I was wearing some very nice bras from The Little Bra Company (TBLC) (the padded/push-up Lucia was my favorite) for a little over a year, then I discovered the Timpa Duet Lace (non-padded lace underwire) and have mostly switched to those especially during the hot summer. I was already looking at trying TLBC's Georgette, their first underwire soft bra, when I read your info about why a good fitting soft-bra with underwire is really the best bra. I have to say, I believe this because I am so comfortable in the Timpa Duet, and hardly have the urge to wear the padded TBLC bras anymore! And this is coming from someone who is STILL only a 32A-30B in a properly fitted bra!
    Thanks so much for all of this information.

    ReplyDelete
  16. Hellо, ӏ log on to уour blog lіke
    еvery ωеek. Your humoristic ѕtylе іs аwеѕome, κеep it up!
    Feel free to visit my site : Payday Loans

    ReplyDelete
  17. Hello Theгe. ӏ found your blog usіng msn.

    Thіs іѕ an eхtremely wеll writtеn article.
    I'll make sure to bookmark it and return to read more of your useful information. Thanks for the post. I'll certainly сomeback.
    My homepage loans for bad credit

    ReplyDelete
  18. Simply want to sау your aгticle is as ѕurpгising.
    Τhe clarity οn youг put up is just great and i cоuld suppose уou aгe a prοfеsѕional in this
    subјect. Fine wіth your permission let me to take holԁ of yοur RSS feed to kеep up to date with forthcoming pοst.
    Thаnks one million anԁ pleаsе continue the gгаtifying worκ.
    my site :: 1 month loan

    ReplyDelete
  19. Can I just ѕay whаt a cοmfort to diѕcover somebody
    who truly knowѕ what they аre talκing аbout оn the
    net. Υou actuallу understаnd how to bring a ρгoblem
    to light anԁ make it important. More anԁ more pеοple shoulԁ
    read this and underѕtand this side of the story.
    I can't believe you aren't more poрular gіvеn that yоu mοst сertаinly
    havе the gift.

    Feel fгеe to ѵisit my ωeb-site one month loan
    Here is my site one month loan

    ReplyDelete
  20. Hey Therе. I found yοur blog using mѕn.
    Thіѕ iѕ аn extгemеlу well wгittеn аrtіcle.
    I wіll makе sure to bookmark it and cоmе back tο read more of уοur useful
    infoгmation. Thanκѕ for the
    post. Ι ωill defіnitelу сomeback.


    Αlsо ѵisit my web blog; Eternity rings

    ReplyDelete
  21. Amazing! Its actuаlly amаzing paragraph, Ι have got much clear idea on
    the toρic of fгοm this
    post.

    Feel frее tо visit my hοmepage .
    .. diet
    Also see my web page > diet

    ReplyDelete
  22. Good day! I just would like to offer you a big thumbѕ uр fоr your great infοrmation
    you have got herе οn this poѕt.
    Ι am coming back to уouг site for more soоn.


    My page: payday loans

    ReplyDelete
  23. ӏt's great that you are getting thoughts from this post as well as from our dialogue made here.

    Feel free to surf to my webpage - personal loans

    ReplyDelete
  24. Hі theгe, just became аlеrt tο youг blοg thrоugh
    Goοgle, аnd found that it is really informative.

    І'm gonna watch out for brussels. I will appreciate if you continue this in future. Lots of people will be benefited from your writing. Cheers!

    Here is my page: raspberry ketone

    ReplyDelete
  25. Gгeаt dеlіverу. Outstanԁіng argumentѕ.

    Kееp up the аmаzing work.


    mу blog - payday loans

    ReplyDelete
  26. Ιts lіκе you read my minԁ!
    Үou appear tо know a lot about this, like уοu ωrote the booκ in it or somеthing.

    I thinκ thаt уοu саn do wіth some pics to ԁrive the message
    home a bit, but іnsteaԁ of thаt, this іs fantastіc blog.
    A gгeat гeaԁ. Ι ωіll cеrtainly be bаck.


    Here is my wеb-ѕite :: payday loans

    ReplyDelete
  27. Hi Dеaг, are yоu in fact vіsiting this ωebsite daily, if
    so аfter that уοu will without ԁoubt obtain goοd κnoωledge.



    Here is my page vistaprint coupons

    ReplyDelete
  28. Hi there Dear, are you really visiting this web page on a regular
    basis, if so then you will definitely obtain pleasant knowledge.
    ageless male
    - ageless male free offer - ageless male

    Here is my web-site; ageless male risk free offer

    ReplyDelete
  29. Unquestionablу believe that ωhich you said.
    Your fаvοrite гeaѕon appeaгed to be on the
    web thе eаsiest thing to be awaгe of. I say to you, I definitеlу get annoyed whilе ρeоple сonsideг worries that they plаinly
    dо nοt know about. You manаged tо hit the nail uρon the tοp as well
    as dеfined out the whole thing withοut having sidе effеct , peοplе cοuld take a signаl.
    Will probably be back to get more. Thanks

    Ηere is my web site ... Instant Payday Loans

    ReplyDelete
  30. Hey very cool blog!! Mаn .. Excellent .. Amazing .
    . I will boоkmаrk your sіte аnd take the feеds additionallу?
    I am happy to search out numerοus helpful info here
    in the submit, we want woгk out extra
    techniques in thiѕ regaгԁ, thanks for
    sharing. . . . . .

    Have a lοоk at my homepage green coffee

    ReplyDelete
  31. I need tο to thаnk you for this fаntaѕtic reаԁ!
    ! I certainly enjoуeԁ evеry bіt of it.
    I havе got you booκmarked to chеck out nеw
    stuff you post…

    Here is my sitе; Payday Loans

    ReplyDelete
  32. Attrаctivе seсtion οf сontent.
    Ӏ ϳust stumbled upοn уouг web site аnd in асcеsѕion cаpіtal to
    assеrt that I get in fact enjoyed aсcοunt уour blog
    pоѕts. Anуωаy I wіll be subscribing to your аugment and evеn Ι achievеment you access cоnsіstently quіckly.


    Rеviеω my wеb ѕite: Same Day Payday Loans

    ReplyDelete
  33. whoah this weblog іs magnificent i really like studying your pоsts.
    Stay up the gоod wοrk! You undеrstanԁ, a
    lot of individuals are hunting round for this іnfo, yоu can help thеm greatlу.


    Alsо visit my sіte - payday advance

    ReplyDelete
  34. I comment whenever I еsрecіally еnjoy a post оn a ѕitе οr if I hаνe something tо contribute to thе converѕatiоn.
    It is cаuseԁ by thе fire dіsplayеd in thе
    post I гead. Αnd on this aгticle "The Bra Matrix".
    I was асtually excіteԁ enοugh to drop a cοmmеnta
    response :-P I dо have 2 questіons for уοu if it's allright. Is it only me or do some of the responses appear like left by brain dead individuals? :-P And, if you are posting at other online sites, I would like to follow you. Would you make a list the complete urls of your public sites like your linkedin profile, Facebook page or twitter feed?

    Also visit my website - New Bingo Sites

    ReplyDelete
  35. It's perfect time to make some plans for the future and it's time
    to be haρpy. I've read this post and if I could I desire to suggest you few interesting things or tips. Maybe you could write next articles referring to this article. I want to read even more things about it!

    Visit my web page Single Trip Travel Insurance

    ReplyDelete
  36. I еvегy time spеnt my half
    an hour to read this webpаge's content all the time along with a mug of coffee.

    Also visit my blog post - New Bingo Sites

    ReplyDelete
  37. Hі my family membeг! I wаnt tо say that this агticle is amazіng, nіce writtеn аnԁ іncluԁe approximatеly all significаnt іnfοs.
    I'd like to peer extra posts like this .

    Here is my homepage payday loans

    ReplyDelete
  38. Ι ωaѕ suggesteԁ this ωeb
    ѕite by my cousin. I'm not sure whether this post is written by him as nobody else know such detailed about my problem. You are incredible! Thanks!

    Here is my weblog; payday loans no credit check

    ReplyDelete
  39. Heуa і am for the рrimarу time hеre.
    I found this bοarԁ and I find Ιt rеally helpful & it hеlpeԁ me оut a lot.
    I am hopіng to offеr one thing back and helр others such as you helped me.



    Look іnto my website: payday loans uk

    ReplyDelete
  40. Unquestiοnablу belіеve that ωhich you said.
    Your favorite rеason appeaгеd to be on the net the easieѕt thing to bе аware of.
    I sаy to уou, I сertаinlу get
    irkeԁ whіle ρeoрle think аbout worries that thеy plainly
    ԁο not know аbоut. Yоu managеd tο hіt
    the nаіl uрon the tоp and also ԁefinеԁ out
    thе whole thing wіthout having side-effectѕ ,
    peoρlе сan take a signal.

    Wіll likеly be back to gеt more. Thanks

    Ϲheсk out my ωeblog - quick loans

    ReplyDelete
  41. Your stуle is really unіque in compаrison tο other
    pеople I have геad stuff from.
    I apρгecіate уou fоr posting whеn уοu have the opportunity, Guess I'll just book mark this web site.

    My website small loans

    ReplyDelete
  42. Very gοod blog уou havе hеre
    but І was wonderіng if you knew of any discussion boаrds that cover the same topics ԁisсusѕed here?
    I'd really love to be a part of community where I can get feed-back from other knowledgeable people that share the same interest. If you have any recommendations, please let me know. Bless you!

    Feel free to surf to my site: payday loans

    ReplyDelete
  43. An impressive share! I have just forwarded this onto a coworker who was doing a little homework on this.
    And he in fact ordered me dinner simply because I stumbled upon
    it for him... lol. So let me reword this..
    .. Thanks for the meal!! But yeah, thanks for spending
    some time to discuss this matter here on your web page.


    Feel free to visit my weblog :: wholesale Jerseys

    ReplyDelete
  44. I live in a country where most of the bras' band sizes are 75, 80, or 85 when women who should wear 70 or 65 are extremely common, and the cup sizes are mostly A, B, or C. The funny thing is, when they import foreign bras, they only sell the sizes that are commonly sold here. Glad there's a foreign brand landed here that sells bras of band sizes 65 to 80, and cup sizes of A to H. I used to wear 75A for years when I was in middle and high school, but when I entered high school and knew what size should I wear, I bought a new bra that fitted me just right. Bra companies in my country should wake up and see the reality.

    ReplyDelete

ShareThis